![]() Rank B+ Strength (with potential for Mana Burst boost) & Rank A Endurance vs Rank A Strength is not a massive jump and not stomp worthy. Also, the notion that Nasu puts the primary canon on a pedestal is lol the anime version of Caster's master (Atrum) retconned the visual novel version and appears in other works (FGO, Lord El-Melloi). Most verses don't establish an in-universe multiverse, so no value in appealing to how we usually treat secondary canon. Also, no contradiction with the Heaven's Feel movie The first Mana Burst blew up Berserker's arms and legs, and a more powerful version barely killed him afterwards Nasu clarified that when he said immunity he meant gaining extreme resistance and becoming basically immune (up to you if you believe him, or see this as trolling by trying to hide a retcon under the rug). This means all contradiction, regardless if they break setting rules or not. Your threshold was low enough that if creating lava was not mentioned in the LN, then we dismiss the lava created in the anime. I am sure anyone could understand why I would find that dubious. As for what exactly am I saying that could be contradictory? Saying that Mordred compares in any way to one of the most physically imposing Servants in the War after he has already been massively buffed by his NP. Check the Apocrypha novel first, that's it. The source is the primary canon, the adaptations are the secondary canon. To assume it applies to every adaptation, then, would be arbitrary and sounds like just trying to disregard how we treat secondary canon. And most certainly he didn't ever say the anime adaptation was a different timeline from the Zero Novel. Not the anime adaptation of Fate/Zero, Fate/Zero as a whole. Nasu said Fate/Zero was an alternate timeline. Not that it matters, because it won't happen. A perfect example? Saber Alter apparently killing Heracles multiple times with the very same Mana Burst in Heaven's Feel II movie. If a proper justification doesn't exist, then this is a contradiction that violates the common sense of the setting and is disregarded. It is impossible for him to do so, by the rules established in the setting. It doesn't matter if in an alternate reality, Sasaki manages to cut Heracles. It is bogus and intellectually dishonest to even imply multiple timelines suddenly means consistency is unimportant. It sounds perfectly reasonable to me that the minor changes are chalked up as 'subtly different timeline'.Ĭlick to expand.No, an attitude of dismissing all contradictions assumes that information is consistent, and even if "all adaptations are just alternate timelines" the consistency comes first. In fact, Nasu told Narita (writer of strange Fake) that his problem is that he tries too hard to keep all timelines consistent, and that he should write original dialogue for a vision showing Fate/Zero's banquet of kings, and think of it as something that was said in a different timeline. The events in Fate/Zero also differ from how they were described in Fate/Stay Night and Hollow/ataraxia in some ways. Takeuchi: Oh, so that's why God Hand in the anime version needed 3 days to recover! In the original work it was like "Even though up until then none of the attacks had been worth dodging, this one would have been fatal, so Berserker counters → the resulting explosion from the Noble Phantasm is devastating." Yet in the anime version it was handled as "Berserker could not respond to it due to a severe injury from Saber → losing one of his lives, and regenerates," which may be something to think about. Q: Berserker took no damage from Archer's A-rank Noble Phantasm "Broken Phantasm" (Caladbolg), is it ineffective due to Berserk's Noble Phantasm, or was he simply able to withstand it naturally? Even servants of the Orleans singularity are confident in Chaldea's ability to defeat the pillars as well their own. This is further substantiated by the aforementioned showings. Romani is confident Chaldea can land a decisive blow due to the Servant efforts. There is no reason to doubt the pillars themselves, their very destruction as well as their own words proves the involved Servants are relative or possibly even superior. They explicitly state how many of them are getting destroyed in rapid succession, even suggesting leaving the space that is very much composed of them. The Pillars themselves were baffled by the fact individual servants could overpower them.Īs seen in the links, the Pillars are a hive mind operating in sectors as nerves. If this is in any way an agreed upon tier for them, this by default can effectively solve the 6-C servant scaling. These same servants overpower the pillars.ĭisregarding the moon level Demon Pillars for the moment, under Goetia's profile they're placed at 6-C. Every servant that assisted in your journey appears to help.
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